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  Rutherford, Knorr or Franz - Who has the most influence on doctrine & process now?

  by konceptual99 in

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  so, i was thinking - who of the above still has the most influence on current wts doctrine and dogma?.

  rutherford obviously created the smokescreen around 1914/607 but overall his work has been superseded i would suggest.. knorr created the various schools and they or their offspring still live on.

  wasn't it during his tenure that all the blood doctrine, types/anti types (now chucked away of course), transplants etc came along?

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  Rutherford, Knorr or Franz - Who has the most influence on doctrine & process now?

  SimonSays,

  From the above list, I would say The God of Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac along with Jesus.

  
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  THIS IS WHAT WITNESSING HAS BEEN REDUCED TO IN 2015

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  threads on the newer jw face of public "witnessing" have shared in common the astonishment that jws safely park themselves behind their literature trolleys and exercise incredibly little contact with passersby.

  whether the poster is talking about europe or the united states or australia, descriptions here are the same.. literature stands are protective sheilds behind which jws huddle, talking to each other, sipping on their espressos, whilst the disinterested world passes by.

  neither the jws nor the passersby catch each others eyes.

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  truthseeker100,

  "Kind of reminds me of the song "We're Jehovah's witnesses we speak out in fearlessness, ours is the god true prophesy, what he foretells comes to be" Do they still have that song in their song book?
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  What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

  by 1tMakesNoSence in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

  was wondering what you guys can add to it..

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  For JWs with at least a grain of knowledge:

  I say: What is the biblical foundation for 1914? (Don't ever bring up 607 versus 587!)

  He/she says: Nebuchadnezzar's dream where a tree was cut down and the King of Babylon turned insane.

  I say: So when did the king of Babylon regain his insanity? During the 7 years or after it?

  He/she says: Afterwards, of course.

  I say: So If the King regained his insanity after the 2520 days then why have the nations, whom he symbolizes, not gained their sanity after the 2520 years but have only become worse?
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  does us Bethel Rachel oily racially reflect the publishers in us

  by poopie in

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  your thoghts racially not oily

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  What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

  by 1tMakesNoSence in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

  was wondering what you guys can add to it..

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  1tMakesNoSence,

  "Have lions Always eaten Meat? Will they eat meat in the Paradise? (Usually get the Answer No) Then why do they have sharp teeth and claws? What about maggots? Or Valtures? Are they also going to become Vegitarian?"

  Creationists in general - not just JWs - claim that animals that have sharp teeth were strict vegetarians. The Panda is an example of the animals with sharp teeth they claim existed before the flood. Pandas live on a diet of bamboo yet they have sharp teeth. What they don't realize is that Pandas do scavenge meat when they run into a dead animal. They have been caught on video doing that.

  Then there are the ridiculous claim of many Creationists that the sharp teeth of dinosaurs like Tyrannosaurus Rex was used to eat palm trees.

  As for the rest of the predatory world they claim that it was Adam and Eve's sin that somehow ruined creation creating carnivory amongst animals and parasitism in other organisms.
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  Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

  if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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  Fisherman, "Lets be truthful."

  You're not being truthful. You read what I said above. 10,000 people heard it though most of them are either dead, not in the religion or totally forgot that absurdity. 1975 wasn't quite the end of the 6,000 years of man's existence because Freddy elaborated on the "Adam and Eve gap". Do you even know what that was?
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  Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

  if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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  Fisherman, "Things can change in a snap."

  Nothing has changed in 137 years of false prophecies in a snap or otherwise. Religion if anything will grow as society becomes more impoverished. Religion thrives on misery and there will be plenty of misery yet to come. And no, that misery has nothing to do with what the Bible has to say about the end.
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  Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

  if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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  Fisherman,

  "The same hysteria that happened in 1975 by a bunch of clueless self promoting people within the organization that were in essence confused or just studying."

  That's a damn lie. I was there in 1974 and I heard a talk given to 10,000+ people in attendance by none other than Frederick Franz. He said that the end might happen within a few months or a few years after 1975 but not decades.
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  One month researching my doubts: my crucial issues with WTBTS - what are yours?

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so after 20 years a convert, about a month ago i decided to start listening to my doubts and to do independent research about the wtbts teachings (naughty me).

  as a result i have consolidated my position on various points and these are my major issues with the wtbts teachings, i am posting these to help myself figure things out (with your assistance) and hopefully to hear from others at their stage of drawing away from the gb - newbies' especially.

  in the form of notes so hope you dont mind...child abuse.

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  Tornintwo,

  "Elevation of the GBThe habit of equating GB teachings with Jehovah..."

  That's what got me out, not doctrine or dates. It is the psychology of these people that counts even if they had no change in doctrine; no doomsday predictions; no forced field service etc.
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  Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

  if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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  Fisherman, do you believe that the Jehovah's Witnesses are the "Truth"? If so why are you here?